Peyton and Haley’s friendship

I know that I said, that Peyton’s character was my next post, but I decided to do this one first, because after rewatching season 5, I’m really not feeling the Peyton/Haley friendship and it was forever tainted for me after this season. I posted the below on a OTH forum.

In season one, Peyton befriends Haley after an away basketball game where she misses the bus home. Peyton has to drive Brooke’s car home, because Brooke got injured in the game and was on super high sedatives. For that season Haley/Peyton started a tentative friendship. Brooke wasn’t all that interested in being friends with Haley and in fact tried to put Peyton/Nathan back together so she should get Lucas and hurt Haley deeply.

However, in season 3 Paley’s friendship sort of hit a stalemate. They basically replaced Peyton with Brooke to prop Brooke/Haley as this epic friendship that could rival Brooke/Peyton, while also tearing down Peyton/Haley and having the ridiculous storyline of Peyton treating Haley like crap for multiple episodes after Haley abandoned her friends/husband to go on tour. Then Haley/Brooke move in together and it’s like they were always bffs. And literally Paley don’t interact for almost an entire season. Then she makes Brooker her maid of honor. Then season 4 hits and even when Brooke does something extremely crappy to Haley by stealing the calculus exam and getting Hale fired, she still make Brooke godmother. That is what bothers me so much. Brooke gets treated like she’s Haley’s best friend and they barely acknowledge the friendship Peyton/Haley started in season 1. Not to mention that she threw all her support behind Brooke/Lucas and encouraged Lucas to be with Brooke multiple times. However Peyton is just the girl that Lucas cheats with and when Lucas and Peyton get together in season 4, Haley doesn’t really give Peyton that same benefit.

Peyton/Haley had some good scenes in season 5. I’m not saying they didn’t, but the propping of Lindsey and tearing down of Peyton’s character to make Lindsey a likeable character did not sit well with me and I’m never going to be okay that Haley was a part of it. In addition, in the first episode when Brooke/Peyton show up, it went back to immediately being Brooke as sister like and the godmother to Jamie. So immediately, she’s back to being Haley’s #2. Peyton on the other hand is basically told she’s a failure and Haley decides to “help” her out to not actually help Peyton but to continue the music career she gave up. The entire time, however, she’s using it to prop up Lindsey. To get Peyton to think that Lindsey can be another “best friend” in the core 5. Does she take into account that Peyton lost the love of her life? That Peyton was still in love with Lucas? Nope. Again, it was all about Peyton just giving up everything she had dreamed of, hoped for and wanted so that a new random character could get what she wanted. And Haley wasn’t kind about it. She didn’t soften her approach or try to help Peyton through it. Instead it was about judging her, making her feel like the crap on the bottom of her shoe, and about defending Lindsey. When Lindsey made the comments about kicking Peyton’s ass in front of her friends I might add, Haley said nothing and actually laughed along. And when Lindsey made the awful comment about Peyton bleeding for a second time in the library, Haley did not defend her. That’s the biggest issue I have right there. Peyton almost died in that library and it was a disgusting thing to say and Lindsey got away with it. In fact, Haley turned around and defended Lindsey again about the dead dad thing and about how she lost her dad to cancer. Cause you know Peyton could never understand losing a parent to cancer. ….. UMMM, did you conveniently forget about Ellie, Haley? I just really don’t like how hypocritical Haley was written, especially because it was to tear down Peyton and her feelings. And that’s why I don’t like P/H during season 5.
In addition, her reaction to Peyton’s feelings for Lucas are ridiculous considering it’s Peyton’s ex’s new girlfriend. Talk about awkward, but Haley basically took no consideration into Peyton’s feelings about this and instead threw all her support behind Lucas/Lindsey. That’s not to say that she shouldn’t be supporting Lucas. But wasn’t Peyton one of her closest friends? Does she not deserve to have a little bit of empathy? This is where I have the biggest issue. Peyton/Haley’s friendship comes down to Haley. Haley decides when Peyton is worthy of understanding/friendship and withholds it when she gets mad at Peyton. Yelling at Peyton and telling her that she doesn’t have a right to be sad/upset about Lucas choosing another girl, is where Haley lost me in season 5. She come around later and tells Lucas not to mary Lindsey, but it still doesn’t negate that fact that for a whole string of episodes in season 5, she basically made Peyton feel like crap on the bottom of her shoe, because it wasn’t that easy to give up on the love of her life.

In season 6 when Haley calls dibs on godmother, I laughed out loud at the ridiculousness of that. I’m sorry but you ask Brooke to be your number one at 2 of the most important things in your life, forgive her for getting you fired, but treat Peyton like crap multiple times, judge her for something that you aren’t actually a part of, yell at her when she’s going through something heartbreaking, call her a failure multiple times (even a joke that’s not cool) and expect to be the godmother to her kid? NOPE.

I might be alone on this, but I really stopped shipping the Peyton/Haley friendship after season 4 when I realized that they demolished it to prop up Brooke’s character transformation.

Brooke Davis

I love One Tree Hill. I watch the show on Netflix at least a few times a week.  I’m currently rewatching season 6.  I have many thoughts and feelings on the show. I am currently off of work for a few days and so I did some research. I wanted to know what the general consensus on the Internet was concerning Brooke Davis, or  Brooke Penelope Davis as Jamie calls her, is.

I scoured the internet for messages boards posts from the mid 200os. I read the Brucas threads, I read the Anti-Peyton threads (in which they called her Seyton), and I read the Brooke threads. Overwhelmingly, these threads tended to turn into a hate fest of Leyton and of Peyton, but didn’t actually talk about why they loved Brooke or even why they shipped Brucas. It always came down to preferring Brucas and Booke over Peyton because she kept Brooke/Lucas apart.

It honestly was a super frustrating two days of reading. I am a HUGE fan of One Tree Hill. I adore Peyton, probably more than I adore anyone else on the show. I didn’t care for Brooke in high school much, because she was super immature and shady and at times downright cruel and vindictive. But she grew on me. She matured, she stopped being insecure, and she was an overall great person. It took until season 5 for me to really LOVE her and root for her as a person.

I never once found myself wishing Brooke would die a painful, horrible death or hoping she’d be written off or wanted to leave the show. I’ve been there with characters from other television shows before, but not her. I’ll be honest. I hated Brucas. They did not work as a couple.

In season one when Brooke decides that Lucas is hot and she wants to get with him, she decides she’s going to try to get her best friend Peyton (who Lucas really likes by the way) back together with Nathan. A guy who was horrible to Peyton. He treated her like crap and basically verbally abused her. They were a terrible couple and he constantly cheated on Peyton with anything in a skirt. Peyton finally got up the courage to dump him and here comes Brooke deciding that it’s okay for her to be selfish and to go after the guy who really wants to be there for Peyton and to be with her.

And thus starts the triangle that lasts for five more seasons on the show. Peyton is intrigued by Lucas. He tells her her art matters and it’s what got him to play basketball. He tells her he wants to be with her and have a relationship with her. She gets freaked out, because the only relationship she’s known is with a huge douche. And now his older brother is wanting to be with her too. So she runs away. She makes a mistake.

Meanwhile, Brooke is pressuring Peyton into admitting her true feelings for Lucas. Peyton doesn’t want to be vulnerable like that, so she lies. But deep down, Nathan knows. It’s why he was so angry when he discovers his older brother is in the popular crowd now. Brooke knows it’s why she’s keeping Nathan away from finding true love with Haley, Lucas’s best friend, and why she’s urging Peyton and Nathan to get back together.

This is where Brooke lost me. She pulled an incredibly shady move that literally hurt Peyton, Lucas, Nathan, and Haley. She hurt four people with her selfishness. It left a sour taste in my mouth what she did to Haley and Nathan the most, honestly. I was super into Naley.

And then Peyton got date raped and Brooke ended up making that entire night about her and how upset/sad she was. Lucas fell for it. They ended up going on a date and pretty much sleeping together right away. This was the 2nd strike for Brooke to me, if I’m being honest. Not only do you know your best friend has a thing for Lucas and vice versa, you basically skip multiple levels of standard dating etiquette to bed him. You get him drunk and then you fuck him.

I lost a lot of respect for Brooke here and even more for Lucas. He literally only did that because he was hurt by Peyton rejecting him. She said no, she he went with the next girl who wanted him. She made it all to easy for him to.  I was pretty disgusted by both Lucas/Brooke after that.

When Lucas gets in a car accident not long after she basically makes Keith/Karen comfort her and forces her attention and company on them, even to the point of being a nuisance. When she realizes that Lucas and Peyton still have feelings for each other, despite her constant machinations, she goes off on them.

Listen, getting cheated on is no fun. I’ve been cheated on. But I also didn’t pull the shit Brooke did to get a guy. If I did that and I found out later he cheated on me with the person I knew he liked. I’d be like, “Okay. I probably shouldn’t have interfered and gone after a guy my best friend was into and I knew that.” Brooke brought that on herself. This is where Brucas fans lose me. They claim that Peyton alone is to blame for this whole situation because she didn’t just tell the truth. But refuse to blame Brooke for pulling a super shady, fucked up moved on her supposed best friend. If I found out that my best friend pulled what Brooke did, they wouldn’t even be an acquaintance anymore.

That move was fucked up and led to what happened at the end of season one. I’m not even sorry for saying it. Brooke was a shitty person and a friend to do that to Peyton, Nathan, Lucas, and Haley.

Should Lucas and Peyton have snuck around behind Brooke’s back? No. That wasn’t cool either. I guarantee though that if they had handled it the way Lucas wanted to by just telling Brooke, Brucas fans would still be livid. The fact remains that Brucas was over in season 1 because of a shitty, shady move pulled by their “queen”, Brooke.

 

Season two Brooke wasn’t nearly as annoying to me, but I really disliked her story with Felix. He was gross, chauvinistic, and clearly not a good person. I also didn’t like how mean she was to Anna in season 2 for no real reason when Peyton became friends with her. Not to mention when she decided to throw a fundraiser only to keep the money for herself so she could buy new clothes. And honestly she wasn’t there for Peyton during season 2 during the drug fiasco or when Felix spray painted her locker. She was busy having sex with a terrible guy and defending him. The thing that really bothered me the most was when she decided it would be appropriate to take naked pictures of Peyton in the shower and post them on the internet. As you recall, it wasn’t long after those pictures made their way to the internet that Peyton’s psycho stalker started contacting her. I honestly blame Brooke for a little of that. People always want to bash Peyton for being a bad friend, and Brooke was as bad.

 

In season 3, I fucking loathed Brooke. Her friends with benefits, non exculsive thing with Lucas was seriously the most fucking immature thing I’ve ever seen from anyone on the show, including the actual children on the show. She was horrendous and it was painful to sit through her scenes of acting like a 12 year old. I just couldn’t with her. The thing that pushed me firmly on the #teamPeyton boat forever, was when she attacked Lucas for going on a date with Rachel. Brooke had pushed him and pushed him for weeks to just hook up with someone else and when he did, she went full on crazy. Like, bitch, please. You don’t get to tell a highschool boy to go be with someone else, because you don’t want to commit and think he’s going to be, “No. I’m cool with not having sex with anyone until you realize that I’m the one for you.” Grown men wouldn’t do that. And for the record, no man is a mind reader. You’re expecting a high school boy to understand that you want him to run after you and profess his undying love for you? Don’t be a cloyingly annoying bitch to him then. And EVEN when she was being over the top ridiculous with her expectations, Lucas tried to give her what she wanted.

And even when Lucas finally got her to stop being dumb, and they started dating, she was always worried about Peyton, who wasn’t even thinking about that. And then the school shooting happened and she made that about herself to. Her best friend nearly died in the school, her boyfriend went in to rescue her, and her other two best friends were also in there with the shooter. And when Peyton gets to the hospital, guess who doesn’t visit her AT ALL? Brooke. Her supposed best friend, really needed to be there with her boyfriend and his mom 24/7 because Keith died. Really she didn’t, but whatever makes her feel less guilty about basically abandoning her best friend that ALMOST FUCKING DIED.

And then she has this brilliant plan to throw a party in the school where Lucas lost the only father figure he ever had. And SHE gets offended when he doesn’t want to participate. And also a little jealous that Lucas saved Peyton’s life. She was actually upset that the “boy she loves saved the girl he loves.” Like she chose that time to tell Peyton, hey by the way, don’t steal my boyfriend, k?’ Cause you know going through a traumatic school shooting for the person who was shot, takes back seat to your insecurities and whininess.

And then it all falls apart for Brucas, because she realizes she and Lucas have nothing in common, she doesn’t really miss him when they’re apart and their conversations aren’t deep and meaningful. Of course, she blames Peyton for them breaking up, because Peyton tells her she’s actually in love with Lucas and never stopped being in love with him.

And then it bleeds into season 4, where she’s over Lucas, but continues to punish Peyton by telling her she’s gonna steal Lucas back and she can do whatever she wants with Lucas whenever she wants. She makes fun of Peyton’s dead mothers. She calls her names and makes her feel like a shitty friend. The only thing Peyton had the audacity to do was tell her she was in love with Lucas, but wasn’t going to do anything about it. And she didn’t. She kept her word, but being honest with your best friend and vowing to move on and put it behind you makes you a devil, according to Brucas fans. Even in season 4, everything was blamed on Peyton. She was vilified more than Dan. She was bashed, called ugly, anorexic, and made out to be satan himself, all because she did what Brooke had asked to be honest with her.

And then we find out she not only slept with Nathan during the time that Peyton dated him, she slept with him when they were together. This bitch had the audacity to bitch Peyton out for stealing her boyfriend twice, neither time did Peyton sleep with Lucas, by the way, but actually did worse. Like did you just bitch about Peyton for stealing a guy in season 1 that was actually in to her first? Or for the 2nd time when you dumped him because you knew that you weren’t going to last? Because last time I checked Peyton didn’t steal Lucas the 2nd time. You gave him up and shoved him toward her. My favorite part of this is that Brucas fans were sooo upset that Brooke did something wrong with the sex tape that they made petitions to try and make Mark Schwann take it back, because Brooke would never do anything wrong.

Brooke did some really selfish, dumb things over the course of the next season, but by the end of season 4, she was on her way to growing up.

Then comes the adult years. In season 5-9, I ADORE Brooke. She was funny, sweet, caring, and she was a GREAT friend to Haley, Nathan, Peyton, Lucas, Millie, Rachel, Mouth. She grew up. She stopped doing things for selfish reasons. She stopped being so insecure. She knew that she was worthy of love and she wasn’t going to settle to be the footnote in someone else’s love story. Her words.

And so, Brooke Davis is a deeply flawed character. She did some really awful, cruel, and selfish things. Mostly for the wrong reasons. She grew up and did amazing things for the right reasons. I love Brooke Davis. I love her success, I love her journey, and I love her arc. I just didn’t like her for most of her high school years.

Despite how many Brucas fans bash Peyton unnecessarily and refuse to acknowledge any of Brooke’s flaws or shortcomings, I’m not going to take that out on the character of Brooke. She was a very well written character, and I believe I’m better off for having experienced her story.

 

Up next… Peyton Sawyer, why she’s the best character on the show.

 

BBOTT and why it sucked but also didn’t.

The title appears to be a bit incongruous, but it’s how I feel. I didn’t hate the format. After about three weeks of voting, I realized that America by and large shouldn’t be allowed to vote for things, even for something silly like BBOTT.  I am not a fan of the care package. I think voting for a nominee and have nots is enough. We don’t need a care package or a vote until finale. I think having that much power skewed a lot of the game and ended up making people insane. The house was split truly or the first time since season 6. Season 6 still goes down as one of my favorites, but it shows me that the Nerd Herd would’ve been America’s favorites that year if we transplanted it and put it in 2016. That’s depressing to me. Janelle, Howie, Kaysar, James would have been hated and treated like crap and lambasted across Twitter. In Season 6 America agreed one one thing, the Nerd Herd sucked. They were sanctimonious, holier than thou cry babies who begged and pleaded for everything.

And this year the Nerd Herd is the Plastics. (I refuse to call them the ballsmashers when they only managed to smash one pair of balls in Scott) took over the roll of Nerd Herd 2.0. With their constant pandering to America, to claiming they were the good, normal people and everyone else on the other side were pieces of crap,  (Shelby and Morgan’s words) to believing they could play the game however they wanted, including breaking multiple deals (Alex) but bitching when the other side did as well, it was hard for me to stomach them, let alone rooting for any of them to win.

On the other hand you had the Misfits who were loud, brash, uncouth, and said pretty much whatever the heck they wanted to at any given moment and didn’t pretend they were the “good, normal” people. They were jerks and they knew it. They knew they were being petty and played it up. They got upset and annoyed and they wondered why America voted against them (some of the time), but ultimately they got over it. They didn’t spend hours begging in the storage room for America to vote their way with the have nots, nominee, or vote. The Plastics did. In fact, it got so bad I refused to watch DRs from Alex while she was in the house, because it was literally all she did. Her only game was to beg America. And she was considered such a great strategist and gameplayer. And nothing she did came close to being good game.

And it boils down to this, the Plastic stans are wannabe social justice warriors (sjw’s). They like to think they’re sticking up for women (because Jason said some bad stuff about Shelby), they want to root for strong, intelligent women to win the game, and they dislike how mean and petty the Misfits were. And then they also liked to tell people, “Oh we’re just rooting for the underdog.” Well, when the plastics won the majority of the care packages and hoh’s, it’s hard to call them underdogs. When confronted with this truth, their true colors showed, “We just don’t like Kryssie. She’s gross. She’s annoying, she burps too much, she whines, she doesn’t play the game.” Or, “Jason is a returning player with a built in fan base.” “Justin is too good at the social game, he doesn’t try hard enough at the other parts of the game.” Yet the entire time they are claiming these things, Shelby, Morgan, Alex, Scott, and Whitney are blasting Danielle. They call her a slut, the make fun of her body when she wears a bikin, they call her a vile troll, they imply she’s a bad mother for having a showmance, for daring to leave her kid to even go on the show. This was pretty much a daily occurence. If I flipped on feeds to the Plastics they were making fun of Dani or some member of the Misfits.  And then I’d flip over to the Misfits and it was usually them talking about sex, Neeley twerking, or doing something stupid. They had fun. They were coarse and rude and had conversations that would make grandmother’s blush.

Jason did say vile things about Shelby, but Shelby also said vile, horrible things about Dani, Justin, Kryssie, and Jason. Morgan said horrific things about Dani, Justin, Jason, and Kryssie. Whitney called Dani a slut multiple times, and Scott said nasty things about Kryssie and Dani.  In my viewing of BBOTT, I saw far more shit talking and cruel talk come from the Plastics in regard to the other side. After BB18 and listening to Michelle and Zakiyah constantly shilt talk the other girls, I wanted nothing to do with the mean girl crap. I’m over it. I’m tired of these girls getting cast and America thinking it’s okay and that it’s just the way the game is played. And I sure as shit do not want to reward anyone 250K for it.

I chose to be Team Misfits after a few weeks on Twitter when I realized the majority of the people supporting the Plastics were as vile and cruel and hypocritcal as the people they were stanning. I particularly recall being told if you like the Misits you are probably not good at being a human being. With the constant derision and attacking and having RHAP, Reddit, and Jokers bashing the Misfits and their supporters nonstop for a full season, I realized that I’d rather support the Misfits, the outcasts, the people that the mainstream want to ridicule and turn their backs on.

This season was ruined for me and by the supposed super fans of the show, who showed they are worse than casuals when it comes to the show. They think by saying, “Oh, it’s just meant to be fun” while tearing down people and calling them dumb, or bad at being human beings, or insulting their intelligence because they want to vote for someone you don’t like or vice versa, it’s okay. It’s not no harm/no foul. Having a split fandom isn’t actually a good thing or a fun thing, especially when people are being insulted by supposedly neutral parties. It’s not okay how a majority of this fandom acted this fall about BBOTT (I’m including myself in this). It’s not okay that people were told by update sites and podcast sites that their opinions didn’t matter and that if they supported one side over another that they were dumb or bad at being human beings.

 

I honestly hope that they don’t bring back BBOTT2 unless they change it. I want to see old school Big Brother. Get rid of the twists, no returning players, the key wheel back, and good old fashioned strategy with minimal involvement from America. That’s what I want. I don’t want care packages, or a nominee vote, or an eviction vote. And I want people to stop acting like fucking fools about BBOTT. But that ship has sailed.

 

(And in case you hadn’t got the clue, I’m 100% voting for Jason in the finale. It was gonna be him or Shelby for my vote)

Why Jordan Smith should win The Voice

I still watch the Voice, because I love music and because it’s still fresh to me. I love discovering new singers and I really like the idea of it about being about the voice and not someone’s appearance, which is why I was soooo glad that Zach left before the finale, because he was only in the Top 10 because of what he looked like. Thankfully the 12 year old fangirls of the show aren’t the top demographic. That being said, Jordan Smith, is probably the best singer I think the show has ever seen. I’m not talking performer, although is rendition of “Somebody to Love” was a theatrical spectacle unlike I can remember watching in previous years, but Jordan Smith’s voice surpasses most voices the Voice has ever seen, and is better than a lot of current popular singers in the industry right now. People hate him because he’s “too good” and want him to lose the show for various reasons, like “he’s fake, “he’s too good”, “he’s not the best singer”(which is laughable at best), “he’s fat”, “he’s ugly”, “he got too much help from Adam”. Whatever the naysayers are saying, it’s not enough to detract from the simple fact that a show called “The Voice” should ultimately be about the voice. Jordan’s voice is spectacular. It is one of a kind and it’s up there with the likes of Freddie Mercury, and divas like Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, and other freaks of nature whose voice is bigger than themselves, who sings and the world stops to listen because they are that good. Jordan Smith is the best contestant on any singing competition I have ever heard, and if he doesn’t win The Voice tomorrow night, something is wrong with the world.

In Defense of Grant Ward

I haven’t watched Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D since last season. I don’t even know why I bothered last season to be honest. Since they turned Grant Ward evil because they needed an exciting plotline and needed it to tie into Captain America: Winter Soldier, I haven’t cared at all about the show. I was really invested in Grant Ward as a character and I still am, but I honestly find what they did to his character as unforgivable. Now he’s just the whipping boy for everyone on the show, since he’s caught in between being evil and wanting redemption and not getting it. They have ruined any chance of Skyeward, which is fine, honestly, but I am tired of seeing Ward constantly being treated like shit by Skye. Stop making Ward pine after her. It’s so unrealistic to begin with anyway. The build up of Skeyward in season 1 was rushed and an actual good storyline with May and Ward was scrapped for something ridiculous.  And then they jerk his character around to routinely treat him like shit. And Skye, Simmons, and Coulson all have the audacity to believe they aren’t even a little to blame with his reaction to them. Skye is the worst offender of all. The final straw for me is when Coulson murders him and the monster takes over Ward and turns him into  the monster Skye, Coulson, and the others have always painted him out to be, instead of the complex human he was.

I really hate the writers honestly for all of this, but most of all for how they chose to treat Brett Dalton. It was a disservice to him as an actor and to his character of Ward.  It’s no surprise that most “Fans” of AoS want Brett Dalton to be fired anyway, because most “fans” are idiots who cannot separate acting from real life, and I truly believe some are delusional enough to believe Brett Dalton IS Ward. I won’t be watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D anymore, but I wasn’t watching it anyways.

One less TV show for me to care about and watch, which I’m fine with.

Random Thoughts on TV

So I have a few thoughts.

I freaking HATE Victoria and Charlotte on Revenge and I’m obsessed with that show.

Haley and Andy on Modern Family are the only thing keeping my interest this season. I LOVE THEM.

Jackson and April’s storyline is the only thing I like anymore on Grey’s Anatomy.

I love Huck and Quinn’s weird relationship in Scandal. That show is awesome.

And that’s about the extent of my tv watching lately.